Bulk Reef Supply video shows the subtle differences in Iwaki and Panworld pumps

By on Jul 11, 2011

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The old adage “you get what you pay for” applies to everything in life and in the aquarium hobby, this is especially true of aquarium water pumps. Whether they are internal or external pumps, many shoppers of pumps will simply look at the flow rate and the price, often buying a low performance Mag Drive or Little Giant pumps. Thankfully, reef aquarists today are a little more savvy we tend to go with better brands that last under the harsh high mineral environment of a reef aquarium. For these kinds of environments Panworld, Iwaki and Reeflo pumps are good performers but since the Iwaki comes in two versions and the Panworld looks very similar, it may be hard for users to tease out the subtle differences between all of these.

In this simple video from Bulk Reef Supply (an RB sponsor), Ryan Batcheller gives a great explanation of what separates an American motor Iwaki from a Japanese one, and how both compare to the Panworld pumps which was designed by a former Iwaki engineer. There are some differences in size and flow curves but the two most notable differences to potential users will be the cost, power draw and noise level. Great job to the film crew at Bulk Reef Supply for producing and editing this very informative video and we agree with Ryan; budget permitting we choose the Japanese Iwaki pump for most applications.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25302290 Heath Derossett

    Silly me, I thought my bulletproof mag drive pumps were good, but they are actually low peformance.

  • Anonymous

    Durability and performance are two separate things.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25302290 Heath Derossett

    Well, I disagree. If a pump is extremely effecient but needs constant repair or meddling to work, then it doesnt really perform well does it? Maybe we are arguing about semantics…

    But, feel free to educate me on why you think mag drives are poor in the performance area.

  • W T

    Mark me down as another Mag Drive fan. Parts are easy to come by and affordable if needed. 

  • Anonymous

    Formula 1 cars are high performance, Honda’s are durable, see the difference?

    As far as why mag drives are considered to be poor performance, high watt draw, high heat and excessive noise come to mind.

  • Anonymous

    Formula 1 cars are high performance, Honda’s are durable, see the difference?

    As far as why mag drives are considered to be poor performance, high watt draw, high heat and excessive noise come to mind.

  • Anonymous

    The irony is, why do you think Mag Drive parts are so widely available? Think about it ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25302290 Heath Derossett

    You consider a Formula 1 car to be a high performance vehicle based purely on its ability to achieve a high speed and sustain it. The thigns you listed as making a mag drive a poor performance pump also apply to the F1 car. It gets awful gas mileage, excessive noise, and a large amount of emmisions.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4FVXKOUOOYXEOPKO4Y3PK2JCRI J.T.

    Not sure why the heated debate here?  I own several mags and really like them for the purpose that they serve.  I’ve got a Mag12 that’s been in service for over 3 years.  Only problem is that it doesn’t like to restart (which isn’t a big deal).  I am going to replace it with a ReeFlo Dart soon only because I need more flow for an additional tank and reactors.

    My mag isn’t noisy nor has it needed replacement of any parts.  It doesn’t run exceedingly hot (120g tank runs ~78°F year round with LEDs) either.  Is it a good pump?  Sure.  Is there better out there?  Again, sure.  Can you go wrong?  I don’t really think so.

  • Anonymous

    Because the pump is widely commercially sold on the market so it makes more sense to sell the unit and its repair parts than to try and sell one iwaki pump a year? I must be foolish for wanting repair parts easily on hand…..

  • Anonymous

    Which sounds meaner and more sarcastic than intended haha. I just like my magdrive. Simple and effective.

  • Jon Hahn

    I think that the arguments that happen after this point are due to this assertion that durability and performance are two seperate things.  I would contend that durability is an aspect or category OF performance.  If we consider other products where durability is the most important aspect, say, bullet-proof vests, football helmets, etc… then performance and durability are considered by many to be the same thing.  If we look at a race car, then performance has less to do with durability.  So the term “performance” can take on different meanings.  Durability and reliability should also be split up into seperate terms… when I think durability, I think of the ability to withstand damage, either from abuse or accident.  When I think reliability, I think of how long it will last under normal operating conditions. 

    I would consider the Mag-drive 1200gph to be reliable, but not very durable (the 2400 and 3600′s are neither).  It is also not very efficient.  If you use a Mag-drive in the 1200 gph range the excess in electricity that it uses compared to the Iwaki will mean you pay for the Iwaki in 3 years or less (at a rate of just $.10/kwh which is low, so maybe in just 2 years), and from that point on, the Mag-Drive ends up costing you more… $70 or MORE.  When it comes to something that runs 24/7, 365 days a year, I really wonder why people dont invest more up front for what will end up being the cheaper solution in the long run. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3LLNDZ5XJ6ZQ76J2VLDUQD5WOA Micheal

    Well to add more flame to the fire…  I sure got what I paid for with a certain magnetically driven pump that leaves no wires in the tank, what I got was a ton of headaches, a constant money pit with all the various repairs/parts needed for it.    Its HIGH performance (watts per gallon water moved), but fairly LOW durability.

    Also what the hell was with that sound reading iphone app?  How accurate could it possibly be?

  • Anonymous

    Well put, much better than my example.

  • Anonymous

    I have run the Iwaki jap motor, it was way to loud for me. Good on power though. I have used Mags for many years, but they are always problematic for me (impellers wear out fast). My Mag5 the impellers last about 12 months before I have to knock it around to get it started, Mag7 lasts about 18 months. This is with about a decade of use on them now, so besides the constant need to replace the impellers, and excess power consumption/heat, they do last a very long time. On another system I run an Eheim 1262, and IMO it is by far the best pump I have ever owned. Dead silent and has worked flawless for well over 3 years, never 1 issue restarting, and it is lower power than a Mag 9.5. 

    I have been running an MP40w for well over 3 years and never had to make any adjustments to it and it has never failed on me once. Best powerhead I have owned. 

  • Anonymous

    I have run the Iwaki jap motor, it was way to loud for me. Good on power though. I have used Mags for many years, but they are always problematic for me (impellers wear out fast). My Mag5 the impellers last about 12 months before I have to knock it around to get it started, Mag7 lasts about 18 months. This is with about a decade of use on them now, so besides the constant need to replace the impellers, and excess power consumption/heat, they do last a very long time. On another system I run an Eheim 1262, and IMO it is by far the best pump I have ever owned. Dead silent and has worked flawless for well over 3 years, never 1 issue restarting, and it is lower power than a Mag 9.5. 

    I have been running an MP40w for well over 3 years and never had to make any adjustments to it and it has never failed on me once. Best powerhead I have owned. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4FVXKOUOOYXEOPKO4Y3PK2JCRI J.T.

    Have you looked at the cost for replacing an impeller on that Eheim 1262?  I had a fellow reefer tell me that he will never buy an Eheim pump again after seeing the cost for replacement parts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rodney-Azarmi/1567130601 Rodney Azarmi

    As a side note: +6dB is a doubling in sound pressure level (as measured by instruments). +10dB is a doubling in loudness (as perceived by humans). 90dB would be loud in a quiet living room. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rodney-Azarmi/1567130601 Rodney Azarmi

    As a side note: +6dB is a doubling in sound pressure level (as measured by instruments). +10dB is a doubling in loudness (as perceived by humans). 90dB would be loud in a quiet living room. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rodney-Azarmi/1567130601 Rodney Azarmi

    As a side note: +6dB is a doubling in sound pressure level (as measured by instruments). +10dB is a doubling in loudness (as perceived by humans). 90dB would be loud in a quiet living room. 

  • Anonymous

    I hadn’t looked at Eheim replacement parts (simply because I never had the need to) but since you pointed it out I looked. WOW, you were right on.. $70 for a replacement impeller without the shaft is VERY expensive compared to a $15 Mag impeller (I guess Eheim feels they are giving you the shaft figuratively so they don’t give you one literally). You made a very good point, thanks for making me aware of that.