Maxspect Mazarra LED may be the first reef light with Cree XM and Philips Rebel ES

By Jake Adams on May 27, 2011

The Mazarra LED is a 3rd generation light by Maxspect which is bringing a lot of new an innovative features as well as high performance LED chips. The Mazarra may not be the first aquarium light to use Cree XM LEDs but as far as we can tell it will be the first one with Cree XM and Philips Rebel ES LEDs. Even without the top end LED chipsets from industry leaders Cree and Philips the Maxspect Mazarra has a lot of features to love including a wireless master controller, a ball-joint mount with many degrees of articulating freedom, a compact package, fair price and a much cleaner implementation of individually replaceable LEDs.

The Mazarra LED by Maxspect on display here at Aquarama are late development models with certain features and pricing yet to be pinned down. The feature that have been locked in to the form factor of the Mazarra, which is essentially the G3 Maxspect, are pretty exciting and no matter how things shake out, the Mazarra LED will definitely be one to consider for the reef aquarist looking for a high performance LED light.

The articulating ball joint mount will be compatible with a particular mouting system that alows you to center the light, offset it from the side, and to angle the light by as much as 30 degrees so you can really spread out the light from the top end Cree Xm and Rebel ES LEDs

The ball joint mount can be adjusted to the center of the fixture or to the very edge for many different ways to spread out your solid state photons

The Cree XM LEDs are rated at 8000K and stand alone they look very true to this image. Unlike cool white LEDs, these 8K Cree XM will be a much better balance to using both blue and royal blue Rebel ES LEDs

The new interchangeable system uses custoim made LED PCBs which are individually replaceable yet now it does away with all the unsightly wires of previous G2 Maxspects

As with the G2 there will be plenty of options for changing out LED lenses to three different beam angles, and we think we heard that each fixture would ship with a complete set of 60, 80 and 105 degree lenses

Mazarra LED by Maxspect

http://www.facebook.com/justin.zeedrich Justin Zeedrich

This is totally badass, depending on the price I might end up switching to LEDs now. Someone finally decided to innovate.
http://twitter.com/jciotti jciotti

The fixture is still a bit “rough” looking with the visible fans and the mounting dock doesn’t match the look and feel of the fixture. But over all I think these guys really are on the right track. Innovative, unique, useful and having the end user in mind..

Good job guys, thanks for thinking about the hobbyist while in development!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

These are just production prototypes for the show. The final production run will not be “rough”.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

I was very suprised when I saw this lamp.Very, very suprised.. Why? First:Relel ES ARENT avalaible in ROYAL BLUE or BLUE versions – they are avalaible ONLY in white-cool and white-neutral..
http://www.philipslumileds.com/products/luxeon-rebel/luxeon-rebel-white
Second:
This “Cree XM-L” leds ARENT real Cree XM-L led chips! I do not want to write that someone is specially trying to lie to customers!
This chips on photo ARENT Cree manufactured! They are looking like old Philips led chips.
I am convinced that lawyers Cree and Philips will not leave this unanswered!
Here you can see how Cree XM-L looks:
http://www.cree.com/products/xlamp_xml.asp
LOL
Anonymous

what is this then Tom?
http://www.philipslumileds.com/products/luxeon-rebel/luxeon-rebel-color

somehow I doubt you can identify LEDs based on how they “look” when in a prototype fixture and its not even a closeup.
Anonymous

what is this then Tom?
http://www.philipslumileds.com/products/luxeon-rebel/luxeon-rebel-color

somehow I doubt you can identify LEDs based on how they “look” when in a prototype fixture and its not even a closeup.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Yeah, you have right – it is my mistake – Rebel EL are avalaible in Royal Blue and Blue colour.
But there is one aspect more – have you read ANY revies about this “cree killer” leds? Do you know that originally Philips (in their datasheet) informed about 1.5A – that after MANY issues they changed it to 700mA? So – it – 2W??
I’ll be very grateful to you for pointing out the sources to the documentation of XM CreeLEDs have been used by them - perhaps I overlooked something:)
Thank you!
Anonymous

I was at Aquarama and was told by the rep that the module that was opened to show customers what it looks like inside, is a production prototype like Brian said. It’s not using Cree XM-L or Philips on those PCB’s. They are Cree XP-G and SemiLEDs.

Only the black ones running on the demo tank is using real Cree XM-L and Philips, as shown in Jake’s photos.

Besides with their individual replaceable bulb design, how hard is it to swap a few of, oh, just about any brand of LED bulbs onto it? Sheesh.
Anonymous

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http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

Tom,
Just to clarify, what led company do you work for? The pictures are not even a final production model, just a show prototype. Several different versions are in the works, both Cree/Phillips, and Semi versions are expected to make final production. You are dead wrong about the Phiilips only available in white. If you are going to say someone is lying, at least get your facts straight.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Hi,
Are you 100% sure that there are (on the photos) Semileds and Cree XP-G leds? Which ones are XP-G? This BIG ONES or small? I will help you – none of them is XP-G.
Secondly - Do you really not understand that a simple change of the LED plates will be sufficient?Notice of change of the plate with LED Semiled / Luxeon which works with the current700mA to another - with XM does not make sense - XM will continue to work with 2Wpower - power to the modification it is required to change the system power LED currentcontrolling!
It is not as easy as you think ..
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

You have right – it was my mistake, Rebel ES are avalaible in Royal Blue and Blue version – both of them can work with 2W maximum power. Im sorry for this mistake – It wasnt my special action.
About my work – Im working in company which are selling LED chips – Cree also. XM and XP-G also. But what does it matter?
Anonymous

I’m not an expert on LED but I do own Cree XP-G bulbs and I know the smaller ones should be the Cree’s, XP-G are so common these days anyways.

As for the different current and wattage, of course it had been taken into consideration, the rep told me all it takes is a jumper to switch between 700mA, 1000mA and 1500mA, to cater for the needs of different brand of bulbs.
Anonymous

What I really want to point out here is that, unless it is a task that is “technologically impossible” to achieve, otherwise why would they give false specifications to Jake, knowing that the information will make worldwide announcement and would ruin their reputation?? It just doesn’t make sense.

Or are you trying to say Jake made a huge mistake by posting the wrong information?

Anyway I don’t see what’s the big fuss about using XM-Ls and Philips, they are just LED bulbs.
Anonymous

What I really want to point out here is that, unless it is a task that is “technologically impossible” to achieve, otherwise why would they give false specifications to Jake, knowing that the information will make worldwide announcement and would ruin their reputation?? It just doesn’t make sense.

Or are you trying to say Jake made a huge mistake by posting the wrong information?

Anyway I don’t see what’s the big fuss about using XM-Ls and Philips, they are just LED bulbs.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

So – if this smaller one are XP-G – can you show me WHERE on Cree website I can find Blue or Royal Blue XP-G leds?(its very easy to recognize what kind of colour they are – this one with yellow luminophour are white – this white led chips – are blue or royal blue.
But … XP-G in this colour(Royal Blue or Blue) arent avalaible…
But maybe Im wrong again..
About current – for XM-L it is still 5W(for 1500mA) – the same current like maximum for XP-G..
Another fact – Im so sorry, but this fixture WITHOUT proper and efficient cooling will have very short life time. Please forgot about this two small fans.. Im sure, that radiator(if its will be real XM-L – even working on 5W) – and rest(RB and BLUE) – working on 3W – it will give total fixture power 74W total(maximum!) For this size of radiator – and this kind of cooling – radiator will have about 70-80 degree – please check on Cree/Philips datasheet – HOW HIGH is core temperature when radiator have 70 degree. And how much shorten lifetime of this leds will be.
Thats all from my side – I will not reply in this thread any more..

Have a nice weekend.

Tom
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

I dont know why they gave this information to Jake. But – I worry that he got wrong and not real informations.
It doeasnt make a sense for me also – but its happen. Isnt true?
Cheers!
Anonymous

So much speculations, well I donno the answer to your questions so let’s wait for the finalized specs before we debate any further, given that this is their 3rd generation product I think they should have some clues on what they are doing eh?
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

I can agree only – this one which was showed on pictures is completly diffrent from this one which can we read about.
So there is no other possibilities than waiting for final product – and coming back to this debate after that
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

The reason it matters about what company, is that they way you come off, it seems that you work with a for a competing company. So what does it matter if the Rebel is run at 2w, as long as the fixture produces the results and led’s are run within specs? It seems that you are trying to throw a very negative light over the product. I do not see any specifics in the post above that states what mixture and what wattage they are driven at.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Brian,
You are wrong. If someone tell that black is black – it should be black – not grey.
I asked very simple questions. Do you think that simply asking is creating negative light over the product? If Im wrong – please correct me. It shouldnt be a difficult if this lamp real is working like it was said in this topic.
Note that I presented my practical observations - supported by several years of workexperience in electronics / lighting engineer.
Its really very hard to reply to my simple questions? Im sure that it shouldnt be.
http://www.nanocustoms.com/ clive@nanocustoms

You need to cool your jets and go back to the datasheets. Luxeon Rebel ES LEDs are rated for 1000mA maximum continuous current. They are binned at 700mA.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

Tom,
Speaking of Grey and Black, if you would pay attention to the pictures, you would notice that they are two different fixtures displays. Maxspect took over 100 fixtures to Aquarama in several different versions. The Black fixture in the above picture has 4 Cree XM-L chips, 4 Rebel ES Blue, 6 Rebel ES Royal Blue and two Semi Violet.
The Grey fixture has 10 Semi White, and 6 Luxeon RebelES Royal Blue Chips. It should of been easy for you to notice the difference due to the different color fixtures, and all the yellow led’s.
Maybe you need to practice your practical observations, as you are way off base with no correct information on this matter. Are you attending Aquarama? Do you have first hand knowledge about the product displayed?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

Tom,
Speaking of Grey and Black, if you would pay attention to the pictures, you would notice that they are two different fixtures displays. Maxspect took over 100 fixtures to Aquarama in several different versions. The Black fixture in the above picture has 4 Cree XM-L chips, 4 Rebel ES Blue, 6 Rebel ES Royal Blue and two Semi Violet.
The Grey fixture has 10 Semi White, and 6 Luxeon RebelES Royal Blue Chips. It should of been easy for you to notice the difference due to the different color fixtures, and all the yellow led’s.
Maybe you need to practice your practical observations, as you are way off base with no correct information on this matter. Are you attending Aquarama? Do you have first hand knowledge about the product displayed?
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Cant you understand, that the problem is not current rating?
1. THIS IS NOT LUXEON REBEL ES on pictures – but OLD REBEL (not ES)
2. THIS IS NOT XP-G led on pictures
3. THIS IS NOT XM-L Cree led chip
Dont you see – that something anything is what we are talking about – and something anything is what we can see on pictures? l only comment what I saw.
I got information – this is not XM-L on pictures – only XPG and Semiled. So Im writing – ITS NOT XPG – ITS OLD Rebel
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?285041-Lumileds-uping-the-ante-on-the-Rebel
please compare pictures – notice the diffrence between Rebel ES and old one – do you see that?
So – when Im “pointing” that something is “little” diffrent than it writes – you attack me saying that Im throwing “negative” light? What is the sense showing pictures somethin COMPLETE diffrent than its written in description? Its not make a sense for me – maybe for you?
For ME(my private opinion) – on pictures you can see cheap semiled led chips – and old Rebel led chip. Thats all .
In this black lamps THERE ISNT XM-L led chips installed also – you can simply compare LED focusing lenses – they are the same FOR ALL leds. Its not too difficult to find REAL produced focusing lenses for XM-L chips. I promise – you can find it – or simply ask Cree. Do you think that they will want to “throw” negative light on this lamp also?
I dont know why they told something other that they showed – its not my problem.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

XM-L’s will be run at 1400ma, others at 700ma. Everything is driven to spec. XM-ls can run on the semi/Rebel circuit with no changes, but not vise versa. The production model will have a way for to change from 1400 to 700 and vice versa buy the dealer, but not end user.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

XM-L’s will be run at 1400ma, others at 700ma. Everything is driven to spec. XM-ls can run on the semi/Rebel circuit with no changes, but not vise versa. The production model will have a way for to change from 1400 to 700 and vice versa buy the dealer, but not end user.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

I do believe you need to reread the article, as he as stated correct information above. I feel that either you did not understand what was written, or has chosen to ignore it.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Yes – you have right. I need to practice little more probably..
A specially when I will want to compare NEW ES Rebel chip and this old one.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?285041-Lumileds-uping-the-ante-on-the-Rebel
If YOU STILL TALKING than on this pictures there is NEW REBEL ES – I dont know what I should say enough.
Simply compare led chips from this photos – and from this link which I posted above.
Thats all.
EOT for me. Thank you.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

The reason the black had fans, is that is the fixture that is running the XM-l’s. The other fixtures remain cool due to lower current. The silver ones are running other chips.
The fixture has a temp sensor and overheat protection built in, and will operate within led specs.
You are full of conspiracy theories to why it can not be XM-l, but misguided they are. The optics are designed to universally work with the Cree XP, Semi, or Rebel chip’s.
http://twitter.com/jciotti jciotti

Thanks for clearing that up Brian, I might have read over that aspect.

I think this is a fantastic approach to solving a lot of lighting issues.

On a side note I really do hope this fixture comes out in silver or white, black will clash in my home and I feel as though it looks “tacky”.

You can sign me up though at whatever the cost and I’d be all over the final version.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

If you look a the pictures, you should notice the layout of led’s on picture number 1 contain the chipsets as described by Jake. It is a different fixture and layout than picture number 2,4 and 6. There are different versions on display at Aquarama.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

I have read it few times – and Im sorry , I cant see that in ANY place there is putted information that on the pictures there are completly diffrent lamp than it was reviewed.
Maybe you have possibilities to see that – Im probably too stupid for that.
And my experience isnt probably so big like yours. Maybe you are seeing what you want to see – but Im not able.
Respect!
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Yeah??
Can you show me UNIVERSALL lenses which can work with XM-L, Luxeon Rebel and Semi led chips?? Im very interested!
If on this black lamps are XM-L led chips installed – there should be used “universal” focusing lenses FOR ALL LED CHIPS in this lamp.. They are the same – so you can tell me, who is manufacturing UNIVERSALL focusing lenses for this DIFFRENT SIZE led lenses?(almost 5mm for XM-L and 2.4mm for XPE)??
Do you understand – that ITS IMPOSSIBLE to produce universal focusing lenses for DIFFRENT LED CHIP SIZES??
I know – Im still trying to “throw negative light” on this topic.
I promise – you can check the tiem of posting this post – I will not post anything more Brian, I dont want to damage your business.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Edwards/100001212954351 Brian Edwards

Tom,
The lenses are custom manufactured for Maxspect for their fixture, you will not find any other company carry the lenses. As for the Universal part, meaning that it does not have to snap tight over each various kind of led. Sure you will lose some efficiency,and the spread is same for each type of led, but close enough for the overall effect to work in this application.
Anonymous

Owned. Toodles!
Anonymous

Owned. Buh bye!
http://www.nanocustoms.com/ clive@nanocustoms

You’re getting way to wound up over this. These are PRE-PRODUCTION units, so there is always the possibility that what is shown not what is going to be in the end product. None of the comments under the pictures of the internals of the fixture claim to be showing XM-L or Rebel ES LEDs. Maxspect has always been clear about the fact that their fixture can easily support any new LED technology that comes along, and clearly they are trying to show that.

Also, I’m not attacking you. I was trying to point out that you were interpreting the Rebel datasheet incorrectly. You claimed earlier that the Rebel (ES or otherwise) maxed out at 700mA, which is incorrect.
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Im sorry – but you are wrong again. You dont want to understand what Im trying to say – you are only talking the same words , and still and still.
I will tell you. ORIGINALL focusing lenses for XM-L chip(whcih is twice biggger than XPG and XPE) attached to Cree XP leds DECREASE light beam for 25-35%! I have checked it now – and its very easy to understand. Why? BECAUSE BIG lens for XM-L ISNT exactly fitted/cutted to the XPE size – so light beam is wrong focused – and big light amount is reflected – not passing focusing lens.
The lens must be carefully matched to the original “capsule” of LEDs – if not – a lot of light is lost. So how is it? Large lens (matching XM-L) is also attached to the diodes XP (and the light is scattered badly) – or are the lens fit diodes XP – not suitable for the XM-L? (And here is the light lost?). There is no other way – because there is no “universal” lens. Shedding up to 30% of the light from the LEDs only because it is poorly fitted lens – it is my opinion, the action does not make sense. Sometimes it is better to refine the product – and only then informed that “this is a lamp XM-L and ES Rebel” – but that even the XM-L and Rebel ES is not – because what the pictures / show clients – it’s quite another thing. There is the title of this story – because I think that Jake has been misled. It’s as if someone showed a flashlight – and talked about the stadium lamp. And then he was accused – that casts a bad light on the product. Please understand – I do not have to attack the lamp. Appearance even I like it, fixing it is interesting – I think that light will find its buyers (although I do not know how much will cost). However, showing something that is not what it should be (diodes – another in the description, the other in the tube), showing the glued ATmega32 – the connecting cables from the channels of PWM (corrected draft) – it makes no sense to me. THIS JUST sheds light on the product – not my opinion. So let’s wait for the final product – what is shown is something totally different to what we say.
http://twitter.com/jciotti jciotti

Well said
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3IWJK7ONOXNBYKPFB26NIOMUXQ CherryChan

@twitter-306380305:disqus

To find out answers for your questions, I went back to the booth and asked the Maxspect rep, and they were kind enough to let me take a photo of the actual fixture with XM-L, Philips and Bridgelux bulbs.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g2NgmBBMRLo/TeKRiZSSlfI/AAAAAAAAHbE/mcGvxHvUwuc/s1024/DSC_6743.JPG
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Hi,
Thank you – in fact, on this photos there are Cree XM-L leds(Im not sure that they are putted correctly) but its seems to work.
As I see on this photo – this lamp have output power about 56W(only 4pcs XM working on 1400mA – and the rest working on 1000mA maximum current) . What price it will be for this unit – and how many units for 5ftx2ftxft tank?
When “ready for sell” product will be avalaible?
Thx
TJ
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Hi,
Thank you – in fact, on this photos there are Cree XM-L leds(Im not sure that they are putted correctly) but its seems to work.
As I see on this photo – this lamp have output power about 56W(only 4pcs XM working on 1400mA – and the rest working on 1000mA maximum current) . What price it will be for this unit – and how many units for 5ftx2ftxft tank?
When “ready for sell” product will be avalaible?
Thx
TJ
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

Hi,
Thank you – in fact, on this photos there are Cree XM-L leds(Im not sure that they are putted correctly) but its seems to work.
As I see on this photo – this lamp have output power about 56W(only 4pcs XM working on 1400mA – and the rest working on 1000mA maximum current) . What price it will be for this unit – and how many units for 5ftx2ftxft tank?
When “ready for sell” product will be avalaible?
Thx
TJ
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4FVXKOUOOYXEOPKO4Y3PK2JCRI J.T.

Quit feeding the troll!
http://twitter.com/jciotti jciotti

He is hungry though!
http://twitter.com/jciotti jciotti

I’d like a confirmation on production of the silver unit. Is that possible?
http://twitter.com/jciotti jciotti

I’d like a confirmation on production of the silver unit. Is that possible?
http://twitter.com/TomJones43 Tom Jones

doubled
DrB

As the owner of a MaxSpect G2, I’m very happy to see this light. This shows me that MaxSpect is working hard on new products and will hopefully be around for a long time. I love how easy it is to swap led’s on my fixture and on these ones it looks even easier and is a lot cleaner without any wires to deal with. My MaxSpect had some problems (almost all of them from rough treatment during shipping, the box was evidence of that), but Brian always helped and seemed to care just as much as I did about having the light running perfectly. I really can’t stress enough how great the customer service and Brian are. This light looks very promising and I hope they get these to the market sooner rather than later.

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